State Dining Room
1:13 P.M. EST
THE PRESIDENT: Let me begin by thanking all the CEOs of America’s major companies for being here today. And they’re America’s top business leaders, and being here to support the Build Back Better initiative is, I think, important.
The economic plan we began with in this administration has shown some real results. We’ve had the strongest job growth on record, the largest decline in unemployment on record, the strongest small business growth in a long time, and the strongest economic growth in 40 years.
But we face some real challenges. We’ve got to get — get prices in check for working people out there. And that’s why the last component of my plan is so important and why the support of these incredible business leaders means so much.
Now, let me start by saying — let’s take childcare: Families across America, and particularly in big cities, pay as much as $14,000 per child for childcare. My plan cuts in half — in half — for most families the cost of that childcare, helping their budgets and helping millions of parents, especially women, get back to work.
Take universal pre-K: If we’re designing our education system today — and I think we’ve talked with some of you about this before — I doubt whether anyone would think that 12 years is enough in the 21st — second half of the 21st — second quarter of the 21st century.
And so what we do here is we want to have the best-educated workforce. And that’s why universal pre-K is going to mean so much.
And it also — you know, it also increases exponentially the prospect of that child being able to, no matter what her background — or his or her background — get through 12 years of school and then go on — almost half go on to a two- or four-year college.
And students show — and these studies have been done by a lot of the great universities — that it’s going to — I think it’s an economic necessity to have the best-educated workforce.
And take clean energy manufacturing: We’re — we’re bringing American manufacturing back — or, I should say, you all are bringing American manufacturing back. And we’re helping along the way here.
The industrial Midwest, believe it or not, is coming back. I got here when I was 20 — 30 years old, and the industrial Midwest was still going strong. But it’s coming back and doing some of the most sophisticated manufacturing in the world.
A real breakthrough began last year when Mary — Mary Barra — excuse me, Mary, for (inaudible).
MS. BARRA: It’s okay.
THE PRESIDENT: I said it again. And Jim — (laughs) — Jim Farley of Ford. GM and Ford and some of the key labor leaders announced that they’re moving to an all-electric future for vehicles.
Just yesterday, Mary and GM announced a $7 billion investment to build electric vehicles in Michigan. It’s going to create 4,000 new jobs.
And last year, I was up at Ford’s plant in Dearborn, Michigan, to see that all-electric [F-]150 as part of Ford’s $11 billion investment on electric vehicles that’s going to create 11,000 new jobs.
And as part of the over $100 billion committed over the last year, American auto manufacturing is going to build electric vehicles and batteries, and build them in the United States of America.
And we all know how important it is to manu- — to manufacturing to have the necessary component parts here in America, made in America.
And last week, I point out that Intel announced a $20 billion plan to build a semiconductor manufacturing facility in Ohio — one of the largest of its kind in our nation’s history. It’s going to create 10,000 jobs.
And, I might add, you know, one of the reasons for inflation being as high as it is — one third of the reason that inflation is up is the cost of vehicles. And the reason the cost of vehicles is up is they don’t have the component parts — meaning, significantly, the semiconductors.
Last year, other top manufacturers committed $80 billion in new semiconductor facilities across the nation, beyond what Intel just announced. And it’s going to create thousands of jobs — thousands of good-paying jobs.
And my — and my new infrastructure law is going to build out more than 50,000 [500,000] charging stations for electric vehicles across the country, creating better-paying jobs for thousands of workers. And the IBEW is going to be, really, very busy putting all of those in all over the country.
And that’s just the start. Our Build Back Better Plan — I say “ours” — is going to do even more, in my view. Combined with the Infrastructure Law, we’re making the biggest investment in clean energy manufacturing ever in American history.
And this is about here and now and the future.
You know, our Build Back Better plan is paid for, it doesn’t increase the deficit, and, maybe the best news of all, it will actually help alleviate inflation.
The fact that 17 Nobel laureates in economics say that the Build Back Better initiative will ease inflationary pressures in the future is — is somewhat reassuring.
The bottom line is: A lot of folks refer to this as just “social spending.” Well, I see it — but I see it this way: The Build Back Better plan lowers prices for families and gets people working. It creates the best-educated workforce in — hopefully, in the world and ensures that we remain the most dynamic and productive economy in the world.
It’s good for families. It’s good for the economy. And it’s good for the country.
And so, I’m grateful for the support of the CEOs that are here. I know they’re somewhat busy — (laughs) — to say the least. And they represent a broad spectrum of the economy and employ workers across the country, from senior executives to high-skill, entry-level workers.
And so, I look forward to the input today that we’re going to be having here, and the — and their expertise.
And now I’m going to — let’s get started with this meeting.
(Cross-talk by reporters.)
Q Sir, I’ll ask about Build Back Better in a second. Your thoughts on Justice Breyer’s retirement, sir?
THE PRESIDENT: I’ll just say one thing about Justice Breyer. Every Justice has the right and the opportunity to decide what he is or she is going to do, and announce it on their own. There has been no announcement from Justice Breyer. Let him make whatever statement he’s going to make, and I’ll be happy to talk about it later.
Thank you so much.
(Cross-talk by reporters.)
Q Will you still nominate a Black woman, Mr. President?
THE PRESIDENT: I’ll be happy to talk about this later. I’m going to get into this issue. Okay?
(Cross-talk by reporters.)
MR. DEESE: We’re going to start — we’re going to start by asking Tom Linebarger to offer your thoughts, please, sir.
MR. LINEBARGER: Thank you, Mr. President. It’s an honor to be here.
THE PRESIDENT: Do you want to go to the Supreme Court, Tom? (Laughter.)
MR. LINEBARGER: I’m just going to demur on that one. But it’s really an honor to be here. Thank you for inviting me to this event. And — and I just want to say that —
THE PRESIDENT: Come on, guys. Let’s — let’s move this.
MR. LINEBARGER: I just wanted to say that — that —
THE PRESIDENT: (Inaudible.)
MR. LINEBARGER: — I think that climate change is the existential crisis of our time. And I know that I would not want to be sitting in my living room with my kids and grandkids and not to say that I made every effort I could to address it.
And working at a company like Cummins, which has been an innovator for a long time, I think we can do a — make a big investment and a big effort to address climate change in some of the toughest to abate sections in the economy: trucks, construction equipment, and things like that. And that includes batteries, hydrogen fuel cells, and other important technologies, and we are investing significantly in those.
But we can’t do it alone. The truth is, we need investments. The tax credits in the Build Back Better Act for hydrogen and clean trucks will play a big role in getting all of us to invest in infrastructure and other things that we need to get this going.
And I just want to say that I think we’re out of time. My view is that we’re out of time to protect our climate, and we’re out of time to make sure that American companies are the ones that lead the world in these technologies.
When we invest, we can win and we can create jobs for our workers here in the United States. That’s what we intend to do at Cummins, and I think that’s what all of us can do if we invest in climate change technologies.
Now, if we wait, not only do we harm the climate, but we make sure that we’re the — we’re not the winners in global competitiveness. Thank you for allowing me to talk (inaudible).
THE PRESIDENT: Tom, as you know, the Build Back Better plan has over $500 billion in climate change initiatives, including the tax credit you referred to. You’re one of the world’s largest engine manufacturers. And they tell me you have nearly — what 60,000 employees, Tom?
And, you know, you’ve talked about being raised — I read a little about you — talked about being raised by a single mom who worked through school caring for you and your brother. And for your employees and for your mom at home, what is the benefit of the Build Back Better provisions relating to childcare, I mean, from a business standpoint?
MR. LINEBARGER: Mr. President, I would just say that my mom would be incredibly honored to even be in the conversation at this table. (Laughter.) Thank you for bringing her up.
THE PRESIDENT: Hey, let me tell you something — (laughs).
MR. LINEBARGER: She’s a big part of my life, and I’m very grateful to her. I know that she has — she’s proud of me for playing the role that I’m playing in the economy and especially for addressing such an important issue as climate change.
And, you know, I’m — I would just say that we’re going to make whatever investments we need to to do our part. And I really appreciate the efforts of this administration to put those — put the climate first in this Build Back Better Act.
And I hope that our leaders can see the future — and the importance of the future and the investments that need to be made to make sure climate change is addressed.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, Tom, on the part of the program that’s referred to as a “social spending,” what — if there is — if you think there is — what, from a business standpoint, does the childcare — being able to have the Childcare Tax Credit so you’re going to have — instead of paying $14,000, for example, if you live in New York or wherever, paying half of that. What does that do, from a business perspective, for you?
MR. LINEBARGER: At Cummins, we’ve always been thoughtful about not only how our business does but how our communities do. And we think that none of our — our company can never be stronger than the communities in which we live and work. And there’s no question that the families that work for our company are — childcare is a significant burden to them.
So, it’s clearly an issue that needs to be addressed. And there’s no question that we hear about it a lot. We offered new benefits in our company for both childcare and for family leave. And I get more notes about that than pretty much anything I do.
THE PRESIDENT: I’ll bet you do.
All right. Well, thank you.
Now, Brad, I want to thank you for being here. The pandemic hit your — (inaudible) — hit your workers and — hard — and working parents hard.
Tell me about how your support — how Microsoft is looking at workforce and the price — and the pieces of the Build Back Better agenda that would advance the goals of your company. I mean, what’s the relationship between this piece of my program and benefitting your company?
MR. SMITH: Well, I think there’s a very important connection, Mr. President, between the pieces of Build Back Better and what matters not just to Microsoft’s business but to every American business.
The truth is, our business is hugely dependent on the success of every part of the economy. You know, we announced our earnings yesterday afternoon. I think they’ve had some positive effect on the markets today.
And what —
THE PRESIDENT: I noticed that.
MR. SMITH: — our earnings reflect is fundamentally demand that the American economy is strong, but supply is constrained. And I think part of the issue goes precisely to what you were just asking about.
You know, what we see is that we need to do more to help bring Americans back to work. And one of the key ingredients that we see, whether it’s for our employees or everybody’s employees, is that people can only come back to work if they have a way to take care of their children.
And in America today, there are two groups of people who are challenged when it comes to taking care of their children.
For some, they can’t afford to pay for childcare. And that’s where the provisions of Build Back Better that focus on low-income people who want to work or who want to get training to work, I think, is precisely focused on what matters to people.
The second group of people that are — is challenged is people who can afford to pay for childcare but what they’re finding is that childcare centers themselves don’t have enough trained people. And your initiative addresses that as well.
And so, from our perspective, Build Back Better will help address supply shortages in the short run while, I will also say, building a long-term foundation for another critical element that business needs: namely, people with the skills to do the jobs that we are creating.
And if there’s one thing we’ve learned, it’s that the best remedy for some of the most acute skill shortages is to enlist the nation’s community colleges and mobilize them for the training that’s needed, which Build Back Better would do.
And when you couple that with the investment in Pell Grants — something that I think so many of us benefited from, in terms of our ability to get the skills to succeed — that is the skills that we owe the next generation of students as well.
I would offer a full-throated endorsement of the climate provisions as well.
In short, I think that does not only what the world needs by inventing the technology in America that literally will help us protect the planet, but it will ensure that the jobs of the future —
THE PRESIDENT: Absolutely.
MR. SMITH: — are created in the United States as well. So, across the board, we are (inaudible).
THE PRESIDENT: I don’t think we talk about that enough —
MR. SMITH: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: — the provision that — if we — the technology that we, by investing, are going to develop that become export capacity, export matters that grow the American economy beyond merely what it does relating to the environment here at home. And I think we’re better positioned than any — any country in the world to do it if we invest.
MR. SMITH: I couldn’t agree more. And, you know, it’s — digital technology will play a role across the board. So, we, at Microsoft, see this. But more than that, this is things like the long-duration battery storage that will equip the automobiles of the future. It’s the sustainable aviation fuel that our airlines and aircraft manufacturers need.
It’s really every sector of the economy and, perhaps most especially, the future of power generation.
THE PRESIDENT: Yeah. Well, thank you very much, Brad, for — for being here and for what you’re doing.
Now — Mary, I’m always talking about Corvettes. I don’t want to make Ford or anybody else upset. (Laughter.)
But I might point out, your — when I went to Dearborn, driving that — you know, it was up there. I don’t know, man. It — I think the press thought I was crazy. I enjoyed it so much, going up there. And your new EV factory and — in that — that Hummer.
Before, I talked about Dearborn and the F-150, but that — that Hummer, my lord. You guys, have you seen this vehicle? It weighs three times what my Corvette weighs. When it was brand new, the Corvette was 0 to 60 in 5.2 seconds. This is about 4.1?
MS. BARRA: Actually, the model is up to zero to three seconds.
THE PRESIDENT: Oh!
MS. BARRA: Zero to sixty in three seconds. Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: Okay, I’m looking for a job, Mary. (Laughter.)
But anyway, all kidding aside, I’d like to — you know, what — what do you — what can you tell me about what the investments we’ll make in this legislation would mean to your business and your business moving forward?
MS. BARRA: Absolutely. Well, first of all, again, it is an honor to be here today and be able to speak about climate change and our aligned goals as it relates to converting to an all-electric future.
And General Motors is committed to invest more than $35 billion to support electric vehicles and autonomous vehicles by 2025.
Just yesterday, as you mentioned, we made an announcement to put $7 billion more into the state of Michigan for affecting four facilities — converting one plant to electric truck manufacturing, as well as two additional factories and then a battery plant.
And so, we are really working to make sure, as we make this transformation to electric and do the right thing for the environment, that we bring everybody along — meaning that we have products at many different price points and people who participate in this market can — either new or used — are going to have the opportunity to afford electric vehicles.
To do that, it takes a good public-private partnership. Because for us to make those investments, we need provisions, especially the environmental provisions or the climate provisions that are going to uncap EV credits.
We see with EV credits that it does stimulate the market. And to get to the aggressive greenhouse gas reduction goals that we have, getting strong demand is very important.
Already, you know, very appreciative of what is in the infrastructure bill to build out the EV charging, because that’s another important part as well. But then there’s provisions for advanced manufacturing, and battery and component manufacturing. And it’s vital that we have that in the United States to not only secure our future, but to have economic growth and to provide good-paying jobs.
So, there are many provisions that are very important that are going to allow us to advance and accelerate the move to electric vehicles.
So, we look forward to working with you and Congress not only for the EV tax credit and the advanced manufacturing credits, but also the CHIPS Act.
The funding for the CHIPS Act, it really is a national imperative. Without having the capability to have — and we’ve all lived through it over the last year and continues into this year — without having the ability to have that supply chain in this country as well, that is going to hurt our ability to lead, whether it is in electric vehicles, autonomous vehicles. And these are key technologies for the future, and it truly is a global race.
THE PRESIDENT: It really is. And as a — as a son of a man who ran, the last 35 years of his life, a Ford dealership and then a Chevy dealership — (laughter) — the — I — you’re going to make a lot of difference in people being able to make a living.
I mean, it really, really, really does matter. I mean, I don’t — I — it’s consequential. And I — at any rate. But I thank you for being here and what you have to say.
1:34 P.M. EST
